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baburaja |
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thanks buddha. the blog that you write is the first thing that i see on my computer. it is really well done. i am proud to be in the same sub-set (iras) that probably you also belong.
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baburaja |
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dear buddha,
10 years is too long to wait for your advent into competitive politics. why not now? |
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baburaja |
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buddha,
sometimes you loose the plot. the philosopher president of out republic carried out a very public affair with a supposedly garish & boorish widow. as per the philosopher presidents' son, the lady used to be invited to all sorts of public functions where all and sundry used to be mightily embarrased by her presence & behaviour. cut out the morality balderdash & please stick to your forte - commie/socialist bashing. we cannot afford to loose you. |
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buddha,
this might interest you further on the morality question; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/magazine/13Psychology-t.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=magazine&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin |
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buddhatheenlightenedone |
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O' BABURAJA,
Thanks for the link. Of course it reinforces my position-that morality is what is acceptable to a society. Just as loot by a govt servant has become morally acceptable in India. Fathers compete to marry off their daughters to someone who has opportunities galore to loot through corruption. A professor in IIT has same pay and an infinitely better life -stability, life and education for the children in a Metro, time for the family etc etc...-than an IAS but no Indian father worth his salt would ever choose a professor in IIT over an IAS for his daughter. After all an IAS can easily amass Rs200 crore, and money, as the Bible says, solves all problems. As for the philosopher President and his widow friend, no two wrongs, not even all the wrongs of the world put together, can ever make a right. Life with one woman is more beautiful than all the beautiful women of the world put together. And of course, thanks for your interest in my blog. I don't intend to abuse the commies but somehow they seem to have pervaded all spheres of life and so come in the line of abuse. And, I never expected PrideOfMatchingham to shrivel up so easily. Buddha
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pankajp |
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O respected Buddha
Before u take a plunge in Indian Politics , please write and publish a book for guidance of bureaucrats. Your wisdom (including experiences of IR's system) will serve a guidance for new entrants in the great bureaucratic jungle of India. Your blogs are read daily by many visitors to www.irastimes.org. May be respected webmanager sir can put a counter giving number of daily hits on your blogs. |
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baburaja |
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buddha,
your one man-one woman insistence scares me. are you another one of the saffron fellow travellers (not to be confused with the pink ones -fellow travellers of the commies)? free mind - which you advocate - and free love go together. |
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buddha,
thanks for making my name appear in your blogpost. the original buddha also, at least on one occassion, did acknowledge that what he had done -ordaining his minor son without consent of his gaurdians-was incorrect. to repeat a cliche- eternal vigilance towards ones' own thoughts/actions is the path to liberation. |
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PrideOfMatchingham |
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O' Learned Buddha
When I noticed the world veering away from the path shown by you, I was too much distressed to put my pen to paper. But with your timely exhortation I am driving my blues away and am penning some of my thoughts which had occupied me in the interregnum. I am sure you will continue to enrich (wo)mankind with your discourse. PrideOfMatchingham PS:Wonder why it is called 'mankind' when men are no more kind! |
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pankajp |
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Welcome back Buddha
What is/are "Dhimmis"? Can u please explain? Please also write about results of Civil services 2007 examination which have 62% reservation i.e only 38% seats are available for General category candidates. |
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pankajp |
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Thanks O respected Buddha for a prompt reply.
One may differ with your support of reservations [with justification coming from Tamilnadu, ignoring the Population control steps of Tamil Nadu] , but your Blogs cannot be ignored. So, keep blogging O Buddha! |
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attaboy, buddha!!!
there are only two types of govt. officers; suckers: who got sucked into a govt. job thinking of such homilies as public service (as if public service NOT public service) can only be done through a govt. job, and suckers: who are there to suck the govt. coffers basically, suckers all !!! so buddha, have you yet found the rewind button (of life)? |
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I feel the entire debate on this issue has gone off-track.
The only issue relevant to the discussion should have been whether creation of new DG posts would increase railway's productivity or not. Ironically, this is the point which has been least discussed in this debate. Instead you can see arguments on how creation of DG post would lead to domination of one department; how various departments have abused their domination in their respective sheres of influence; how this step would lead to further marginalization of IRAS etc. etc. Aspersions have been cast on the integrity of finance officers who concurred the proposal. In my view, this is a very skewed understanding of 'integrity'. A finance officer's professional integrity demands that if a compelling case in the interest of the organization is put up to him, he must concur it regardless of its consequences to him personally. Loyalty to the cadre should not be placed above loyalty to the organization's larger interests and finally to the interest of the common man who in our case happens to be our paymaster as well as our end customer. As regards to marginalization of IRAS, it is we who have imposed this handicap on us. Instead of focusing on maximizing profit, we are myopically focused only on the cost part of the equation. We evaluate an expenditure not in terms of good investment or bad investment but simply as a 'cost' out of thin air. Let their be a hundred new posts of DG. How does it really matter if the net return on such new posts is positive? If someone has evidence that this is indeed a negative NPV proposal, let him come forward and argue his case. If someone has noticed lapse on part of finance team that concurred the proposal, let him demonstrate that there was a lack of application of mind in the case. Let us not fool ourselves that the proposal was shelved on merit. So far no one has argued on this. The proposal was shelved because it affected the power equation within the bureaucracy. Interest of the customers was no where on the agenda. Interest of the officers was the deciding factor. It is a sad day for railways when instead of organization's interests, officers' interests dictate the future of the organization.
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buddhatheenlightenedone |
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O Freefall, in the undivided NR, there were two CFTMs, each controlling freight movement over half of the divisions exclusively and independently. Situation
was pretty much the same in other larger Railways. So the argument that DG(OPS) are required to coordinate movement across different zones doesn't hold
water, when those 'zones' existed earlier also for all practical purposes. Why can't the army of the EDs led by the MT himself can't do the
same in this age of ultra-cummunication? In fact if you count the present number of CFTMs you would discover that it is almost the same as it was before
reorganization of the Railways. Just that they now sit in different cities. With current state of telephony in India does it really matter that the guy is next
door to you or in another city?
And if the the operating officers in the zones do not listen to the Board, will the DG(OP) would listen to the GMs? The arrangement was to be that COMs would be reporting to him and not to the GM rendering GMs only the titular heads of the zones under them, but responsible for all the unusuals there. The DG(OPS) would have been the perfect equivalent of the concubines of the yore, havinng all the power but no responsibility. And you would agree that concubines are known to have destroyed empires, IR would have been a teddy bear picnic for them. Indian bureaucracy is a very very complex and evolved animal, much ahead of the Homo sapiens. All the moves are made not for the employers but for self preservation and self promotion. And of course to safeguard the avenues of the loot from the prying eyes of the others. If the heart of the IRTS is so profusely bleeding for the IR, why are they trying to kill FOIS in its infancy? And of course if you have a case for the DG(OPS) just outline it here. If a thing is being criticized without details, it does not and can not become good for the organization. Buddha |
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And of course if you have a case for the DG(OPS) just outline it here. If a thing is being criticized without details, it does not and can not become
good for the organization.
In fact I do not have any case for DG(OPS) post. I am against the manner and grounds on which proposal has been shelved, not the action itself. |
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pankajp |
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Recent Buddha's blog repeatedly support reservations and put all the blame for India's ills on higher caste led bureaucracy and media and judiciary.
If reservations and handing over real power to the backward classes of society is the solution to all ills of India,state called Uttar Pradesh must be on the path to growth similar to that of China. Afterall, the party in power in UP came to power with the support of upper caste population also. truth remains that whosoever comes in power , starts behaving like his or her predecessors irrespective of belonging to upper caste or lower caste. Coming to Railways, singling out IRTS will not help IR. Are other services [including IRAS] not harming IR by following their own agenda? FROA is a redundant organisation and the earlier it is dissolved, the better it is for IR officers as whatever annual subscription they contribute to FROA will be saved. Coming to pricing of petroleum products, O Buddha, why the taxes levied by state and central government on sales of petrol and Diesel should be in % and not in fixed Rupees? You r right that the price of petrol and diesel must be market determined but these essential commodities cannot be turned into source of revenue for state and central governments to waste money on numerous schemes (which only help the trio of Politicians, Bureaucrats and Contractors/suppliers). Replies of respected Buddha are awaited |
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Thanks a lot O respected Buddha for again supporting caste based reservations in your latest blog
Buddha's bolgs supporting caste based reservations reveal one interesting principle- population of different castes must be the deciding factor in distribution of economic resources . Thus those castes which have maximum population has the first right on economic resources of India. So, first thing India needs to do is to stop spending money on Population control programmes and spend more on advertisements encouraging different castes to increase their population. This also justifies the recent proposal of ministry of social justice to increase quota of SC to 16.XX? % from the present 15% as the proportion of SC population in total population of India has increased in last sixty years of Independence. Thus those Indians who supported family welfare programmes launched by GOI deserve to be punished. May I expect respected Buddha to also write about media which openely supports policies of Commies e.g. NDTV .Indian media (including newspapers) is as bad as Indian politicians. NOIDA murder case deserves a break from media coverage as whatever be the truth, it has ruined two Indian middle class families. O respected Buddha, your comments are eagerly awaited. |
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buddhatheenlightenedone |
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Colleagues are invited to read the following two articles. These were published in the IE of 25-06-08. Articles in original can be accessed by
clicking on the link below each. I will post my remarks later.
Mihir Sharma Posted online: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 2055 hrs Who benefits from reservations? And who loses out? A new study has some answers
No politically fraught issue has been debated without hard data for as long as has the question of caste-based quotas in higher education. Very little is known definitively about who actually wins and loses from the policy; even the parameters around which the size of the quotas are based are almost certainly outdated. In this vacuum, anecdotal evidence has combined with political polemic to lead to a generally believed set of principles, which are trotted out with monotonous regularity whenever required. This is one commonly held belief: students benefiting from reservations are frequently not good enough - or do not have the skills - to actually benefit from the education they will receive. This 'mis-match' is, we are expected to believe, not only a waste for the institutions forced to admit them and to the individuals themselves, but to the economy as a whole. Twelve students, recently expelled from IIT-Delhi, allege that they were told this quite explicitly. Consider, also, the marvellously evocative phrase 'creamy layer'. While the phrase now has a legal meaning - the children of government employees above a certain rank, or of households earning more than 2.5 lakh a year - its centrality in discussion reflects the degree to which people are convinced that those who benefit from reservation are 'rich' in some sense, and indeed probably better-off than the candidates that they displace. Thus it is implied that deserving candidates are frequently excluded for the dubious social benefit provided by admitting candidates who are already, in economic terms, privileged. Fortunately, for the first time, these common assumptions - and others like them - can be put to the test. This is thanks to a mammoth project undertaken by a small group of economists: Marianne Bertand of Chicago, Rema Hanna of New York University, and Sendhil Mullainathan of MIT. They spent years gathering information about applicants for admission to engineering colleges from an unnamed Indian state in 1996, focusing on those who just made and those who just missed the admissions cutoff in each caste category - general, SC and OBC. This required them to trawl through lists and actually, physically, trace and interview those applicants and their families - some of whom had moved several times since their last known address was recorded. What did their analysis of that information, now available online, reveal? First of all, it is certainly true that successful SC and OBC applicants have a family income higher than that of the average SC and OBC family in their state. That much of the 'creamy layer' story is correct. Absolutely everything else appears to be completely false. They find that exactly the same thing is true of all SC/OBC applicants as a whole - not just the successful ones - and, indeed, even of general quota applicants, who also have family incomes above the average for their state and caste. So it is not the case that relatively richer families benefit from quotas in admission; only relatively richer families ever have children that sit for admissions tests anyway. And it is definitely not the case that richer lower-caste applicants are taking seats away from poorer general-category students; when the economists compared "applicants offered a seat in an engineering college in 1996 due to the reservation programme to those that were refused a seat but would have been admitted in the absence of the programme", they found that the family income of the former set was, on average, less than 60 per cent of the family income of the latter group. Secondly, the 'mis-match' theory isn't supported either. If it were true, then just being admitted to an engineering college under a quota would not mean that an applicant became a more productive worker. This wasn't the case when that 'productivity increase' was measured in terms of the salary increases that those individuals were able to command and hold down. Those salary increases, while significant, were however not as much as the salary increases an upper-caste candidate would expect if he happened to make it through the engineering admissions test: this, at last, is partial support for at least one of the standard stories, that the economy's overall productivity is hurt by prioritising lower-caste applicants. The study's authors, however, offer another explanation for this result: the choice of job for SC/OBC engineers is distorted by the fact that they find it easier to get stable but lower-paying government jobs. (They do not add that another source of distortion is possible discrimination against lower castes in the private sector job market. However, the same authors are also working on a large-scale analysis of that problem; they are using methodology that revealed large-scale implicit discrimination against African-Americans in the US private sector.) So if the standard myths about reservations have so little support in the data, how can we account for their persistence? The last part of the study, which analyses the attitudes of successful and unsuccessful applicants, provides an eminently believable reason. It turns out that "it does not appear that those who are denied a seat in an engineering college due to the affirmative action programme end up expressing more negative attitudes towards these programmes." So all those who are responsible for perpetuating and politicising these narratives about reservations might not, after all, actually represent those who genuinely lose from the policies. mihir.sharma@expressindia.com
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/326971.html
DOCUMENT 'Displaced come from stronger socio-economic backgrounds than displacers' Posted online: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 at 2057 hrs Excerpts from 'Affirmative Action in Education', by Marianne Bertrand, Rema Hanna and Sendhil Mullainathan Why the study There are strong beliefs that affirmative action programmes greatly harm non-minority groups and this belief dampens support for such programmes. However, these beliefs are hard to evaluate, since there is very little real evidence to date on the magnitude (if any) of the harm... In contrast, this study assembles the most comprehensive dataset available on affirmative action in higher education. The data We collected two data sets. First, we collected a census of all individuals who took the admissions exam in 1996... To better understand outcomes across caste groups, we interviewed about 700 households from this census of applicants between 2004 and 2006 (approximately 8-10 years after the entrance exam). We surveyed both the applicant and their parents to gauge life outcomes including income and occupation, job satisfaction, social networks, and caste identity. How was it collected? The enumerators first visited the parents' recorded address as of 1996 to determine if the parents still lived there. If the parents had moved, the enumerators went door to door and asked the neighbours for contact information... In total, we searched for 1,984 households. Are quota students from the economically better off sections? The reservation policy is associated with the admission of individuals of a lower socio-economic background. Under the assumption of a 70 per cent enrolment rate, mean parental income among the displaced individuals is Rs 14,088 compared to Rs 8,340 among the displacing individuals; 41 per cent of displaced individuals come from a household in which the head holds at least a master's degree, compared to only 14 per cent of displacing individuals; also, 59 per cent of displaced individuals attended an English-language private school, compared to only 35 per cent of displacing individuals. Do quota students benefit? Attending engineering college increases the monthly income of upper-caste individuals by between Rs 9,500 and Rs 13,000 (statistically significant in all four specifications); in contrast, attending engineering college increases the monthly income of lower-caste applicants by between Rs 5,500 and Rs 6,200 (statistically significant in all four specifications). Hence, the estimates... paint a less favourable picture of the welfare implications of the reservation policy: attending engineering college increases the monthly income of an upper-caste candidate by Rs 3,000 to Rs 7,000 more than it increases the monthly income of a lower-caste candidate. The between-caste difference in the returns to an engineering education is especially large when we compare general-caste applicants to SC applicants... Interestingly, we cannot reject the hypothesis that the returns between the upper-caste group and OBC are the same. Some conclusions: Our analysis suggests that the affirmative action policy redistributes resources to minority groups. Contrary to the arguments of some critics, the policy does not merely crowd out economically-disadvantaged upper-caste students to make way for economically-advantaged lower-caste students. The individuals who are displaced by the programme come from stronger socio-economic backgrounds than the displacers. Hence, by targeting disadvantaged caste groups, the policy achieves some income targeting without generating any of the behavioural distortions typically associated with income targeting. Moreover, despite their low test scores, the marginal admits from lower castes earned significant returns from attending engineering college. In other words, our findings do not support the view that the academic resources that are devoted to the lower-caste students are totally wasted on them.
The full text of the report is available online at http://www.nber.org/papers/w13926
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pankajp |
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Respected Buddha will continue to support reservations.
Perhaps reservation is the only solution to overcome rich-poor, urban-rural, upper caste-lower caste, male-female discriminations. Thus an urban rich male who is eligible for reservation also needs reservations as much as a poor, rural, female individual (who is eligible for reservations). I leave this debate at this point and request respected Buddha to write about growing reluctance on part of IR officers (of all services) to move out of a particular city on transfer. Day is not far off when transfers in IR will be done on same pattern and practice as is being followed in great BIMARU states Hope respected Buddha writes on this in his well read blogs |
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WHAT TRASH !!! & WHAT RANTING !!!
so-called-buddha, please change your nom-de-plume. at least do not besmirch the name of the buddha. since 9/11, usa has lost more than 5000 soldiers in iraq/afghanistan. and what is the total terrorist strike record in india, a few hundred? so, on a utilatrian count (since obviously none of your relatives have been hurt), would you have hundreds or thousands? and what about post-godhra, it doesn't count? out of your depth, my friend. do us a favour. change your pen name and then rant freely. |
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